A Must Read by Steve McKown!! Good Discussion!! Good Debate!! An Example of How The Shuffler Used to Be!!

THIS IS WHAT “THE SHUFFLER” USED TO BE ABOUT!!!   ARTICLE FROM 2008.  

Steve McKown Speaks:  Stan,
Just came across this from 10 years ago from the “Shuffler”. Yes, I still believe this and no, nothing has changed. LOL
P.S. I am now only 80 and don’t believe I have played a tournament since then. Keep up the good work with the Shuffler.
Steve

OPINION BY STEVE McKOWN!! (From August 2008)
OK, OK I just can’t hold it any longer. I have been watching the Olympics on TV for about 5 days now and this just keeps coming to mind! They have all those sports that we all love to play and watch. (NOT!)
Who plays beach volleyball?
Who plays water polo?
Who runs the steeple chase?
And on and on?
I don’t know anybody do you?
Which brings me to my point. There are thousands more people play and love our sport of shuffleboard. Why is shuffleboard not an Olympic sport? I’ll tell you why……

Who wants to watch boring old people knock 7 discs off the board so they can “maybe” score on the eighth disc. How boring!
I’m 70 years old and love shuffleboard. I live in Indiana in the summer and Ruskin, Florida in the winter. I have won the Ohio Amateur singles 3 consecutive years. I have won the National Amateur at Winter haven, Florida. I have won a second in the National Pro Open in Bradenton, Florida. I have won MANY other less prestigious titles that I won’t brag about. I have only played in a few tournaments and I just can’t make myself even go to any of those tournaments to play, let alone want to watch! How many people have ever seen or heard of me? None? Guess why? It’s Boring!
“OUR” sport needs to change! This is not the first time I have submitted a letter to the “Shuffler” and may not be the last, but we need change! I know, I know the “Old Pros” like it that way, it’s their life.
No more 75 point endurance tests of boredom!
No more clear the board forever!
No more writing a book before each match!
No more reading the book before each shot!
No more letting who wins the lag win the match!
Lets change the rules!
We all know how to do it but we just won’t! There are many ways to do that.
Comments and discussion welcome.
Submitted by Steve McKown: 2008-08-21

GRACE PIPHER IS NEVER IN DOUBT!!
If Steve McKown won so many prestigious tournaments he must have played more shuffleboard than he wants to admit being as it is so boring.
I have been playing for about 10 years and I haven’t played a boring game yet!!! When I started to play shuffleboard I was presented a copy of the shuffleboard rules which were in the Preview. It never crossed my mind that I should see if I could change any of those rules. Granted there are some (rules) which should be changed because they are out dated but not the ones that change the format of the game.
I am sure that if Steve tried he would find all kinds of people to help him change rules. What he needs is someone to teach him the way the game is to be played when you abide by the rules.
I like the 75 point game and it is far from boring.
Grace Pipher 2008-08-24
SHUFFLER’S NOTE: Grace may be temporarily without the use of all of her physical capabilities >>>BUT she is in full control of those capabilities which made Shakespeare famous!! Just an update on Grace: She was out to watch the Fun Day activities of the Coldwater Club on Tuesday the 19th and again at Party Time at the Kidds on Wednesday the 20th. The only way Ross is going to keep her in that wheel chair is to tie her there!! Good Luck Ross!!! That is Grace in the margin!! “Have at her!!” She can take it!!!

WILBUR ESTES RESPONDS TO STEVE McKOWN!!
I am pleased that Steve McKown has expressed his views — and asked for comments. Is Shuffleboard boring, as Steve says? I do not think so. I have played many exciting games, and have watched many. Is Football exciting? If you do not understand it, it is not. Are Baseball, and Basketball exciting? If you understand of these games, they are exciting, if you do not, these games are boring. Is Chess exciting? For many (who understand it), it is.
Many people do not understand the subtleties of Shuffleboard, and think it is boring, however, it was not always so. St. Pete has a grandstand, which was often filled. As the saying goes, “Times have changed”. There was newspaper and TV coverage of tournaments and Tournament Results and League Standings were a “standard’ on the Sports Page.
Steve says “No more 75 point endurance tests of boredom!”! No more clear the board forever! No more reading the book before each shot!
No more letting who wins the lag win the match!”. Steve also says,” Lets change the rules! We all know how to do it but we just won’t! There are many ways to do that”.
Steve, what do you propose? What are the specifics? Shuffleboard’s rules are not the problem. The problem is that most people (and players) do not understand “real” Shuffleboard. The current direction is away from the exciting “75-Point” game; therefore, few players have the opportunity to learn the game.
Which comes first, the chicken or the egg? The game will not become more exciting until players learn the object of the game, which is to score points. Players cannot learn this, unless the games that they play demand that they score to win.
This means that there must be more “75-Point” tournaments, and fewer Frame Game tournaments.
Steve says, “I’m 70 years old and love shuffleboard”. In this respect, he is like many others; however, Steve differs from them. He says, “I have only played in a few tournaments and I just can’t make myself even go to any of those tournaments to play, let alone want to watch!”

Steve is a Godsend. Shuffleboard’s problem in the past has been that those who love shuffleboard have been players, more interested in accumulating HOF Points, and Master’s Points, than administrating. Loving Shuffleboard, and having no desire to play, or watch, Steve is the perfect person to form, and administer, a dedicated coalition of Shuffleboard Organizations, formed for the express purpose of changing Shuffleboard’s unfortunate (boring?) image.
Wilbur Estes >> The Guy Who Wrote The Book!! 2008 08 22.
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STEVE McKOWN RESPONDS TO WILBUR AND TO GRACE!!
First of all I would like to thank both Wilbur and Grace for their responses. Although I do not know either of them I’m sure they are my kind of people.
So here goes my response to them, Ladies first…….

Grace you stated, ‘If Steve McKown won so many prestigious tournaments he must have played more shuffleboard than he wants to admit being as it is so boring.”

Well Grace I only have played in a couple tournaments (check the records) other than Nationals which I try to attend. I do find some excitement in those unless the matches become marathons and all that is happening is my opponent is clearing the board and reading the book he wrote during the “Iron Man” endurance practice rounds. I am also active in my home club at Hawaiian Isles in Ruskin, Fl. Also I play in the North Manatee River League. (A travel league in the Ellington area.)

Also you stated, “Granted there are some (rules) which should be changed because they are out dated but not the ones that change the format of the game.”

I agree that occasionally a few rules become outdated but there also are times that a rule should be added/changed that could improve the format of the game. There are rule changes like that in all sports like football, basketball, golf, etc. (You just have to stop and think about them) And in reference to Wilbur’s comment about is chess boring? I’ll bet it was until they added that “little clock” rule change. (Touché Wilbur, Ha!)

You said you liked the 75 point game and it was far from boring.
Again I agree, and I like the 75 point game also as it enters the requirement for a little more thought in what should be a game of fellowship, strategy and skill. What I don’t like is the strategy of clearing the board forever. (I will go into that later.)

And as far as your last comment …..What he needs is someone to teach him the way the game is to be played when you abide by the rules.
I won’t comment on that, other than to say, I do abide by the rules, and your statement must be insulting to anyone that I should happen to beat? Ha! Ha!
And now for you Wilbur, you stated.. I have played many exciting games, and have watched many.

I just can’t argue with that and I have also. But none of them lasted 2 hours. After 2 hours the excitement becomes boredom and I give up. (I know, I know that’s what you want me to do.)

As far as your statement…Is Football exciting? If you do not understand it, it is not. Are Baseball, and Basketball exciting? If you understand these games, they are exciting, if you do not, these games are boring. Is Chess exciting? For many (who understand it), it is.

I admit I may not fully understand some of those games (Example Pro Basketball is not exciting to me and I don‘t play it, do you?). I think if you will check most of those sports have seen their share of rules changes. (ref: the time clock in Chess as I stated above) I do however, believe I understand Shuffleboard. But there again, that is only my opinion.

Another of your statements, As the saying goes, “Times have changed”. There was newspaper and TV coverage of tournaments and Tournament Results and League Standings were a “standard’ on the Sports Page.

Why do you think that we have lost all the interest and coverage? Could it be we didn’t change with the times? I think so, but maybe you don’t?

Your statement, “The game will not become more exciting until players learn the object of the game, which is to score points. Players cannot learn this, unless the games that they play demand that they score to win.”

This statement could not be more correct. The problem is that the “Old School” just want to prevent scoring. Yes, I understand it is not that simple. Yes, I really do understand the “subtleties” of the game.
And now for your hard question…Steve, what do you propose?

I’m sure there are other ways but here is my best shot……
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1. Eliminate “charting.” Why can’t part of the game be each player’s ability to remember how the court drifts? Or which disc is faster? Or how does my opponent react to certain moves I make and how can that benefit me? (Without writing a book?) Why not allow a player’s ability to think, remember, and execute the shot become more important in determining the winner? Is there something in the rules that allows charting? Is there something in the rules that would prevent me from using a laptop computer for charting, getting research on my opponent and recommending how I should play him/her? Where does it end?
2. Eliminate the lag for choice of colors if a third game is necessary. We all know full well the outcome of the match most likely will be determined on one disc when the third game is required. How hard can it be to play frame games? Or 75 points or 12 frames whichever comes first. Then if a third game is necessary make it 12 frames, half on each color.
3. “New Rule“ The first disc of the person that shoots first, shall not be touched with the first disc of the person with the hammer. (10 point penalty and continue play)
Thanks again for your responses, I respect your opinions.
Steve McKown

SHUFFLER’S NOTE: Steve may be interested to know that in Canada, for National Tournaments, we play frame games and when a 3rd game is necessary, we do exactly as Steve proposes in 2 above!! It works well, very well!!
With regard to Steve’s point 1, re charting. Again, in Canada, we require that any charting done must be done following the “Set-Up”, not during the “Set-Up”. Personally, I am with Steve 100% on this proposal!! Shuffleboard requires a variety of “abilities”, one of which is the ability TO REMEMBER!! As the saying goes >> “Use it or lose it”!!
Finally Steve’s proposal 3: An idea with a good deal of merit!!! I will invite others to comment!!!!!

KEEP IT UP GUYS AND GALS!! THAT IS WHY THE SHUFFLER EXISTS!!! WE ALLOW FREE EXPRESSION!!!
Stan of The Shuffler: 2008-08-26.

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The Date Will Be Here Sooner Than You Think!! Why Not Contact Lorraine!!! Get Pix of the UGLIEST and send along to Stanistheman_200@yahoo.com

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FSA’s WCD hosts a ONE DAY Tournament!!! Check Out the Results Below.

Stan Bober Speaks:  We had a really nice one day Draw Tournament for both Pro’s and Amateurs. We had 36 total players, great weather, and a great fun time. What more could any avid shuffler ask for?

https://wcdshuffle.yolasite.com/tournament-results.php

stan bober wcd webmaster AND his good wife!!!  HEY SHUFFLERS!!  Stan and Frank placed 4th in the Main!!!

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Jim and Marlene Corbeil Send Along Christmas Greeting From Canadian Shufflers

Jim Corbeil is the President of the CNSA (Canadian National Shuffleboard Assn.) Marlene and I want to wish you a Merry Christmas and all the best in the new year. We will be thinking of you and your family. Please view our card, above.
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Again Merry Christmas. Jim and Marlene.  2018 12 08

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Allen Dronsfield Gives Us the Northern District’s Tournament Results!! 2018 12 08

The Northern District held it’s tournament this week over in New Smyrna Beach at the Coronado/Mainland Club. This was a Pro Dbls. and an Amateur Dbls. Numbers show that there were 30 Pro’s and 18 Amateur’s present for this one.
Tom Carbonell the President of the Coronado club was the sponsor, Richie & Carolyn Burrell were the Directors.
It was sunny but on the cool side for part of the day, being close to the beach also makes it breezy at times.
As the late afternoon sun came over us cooler temperatures moved in.
The Hawthorne Club will be hosting our District tournament next Thursday and Friday. This will be a Mixed Dbls. Tournament.
Pauline and her lunches will be available, she always ways has a good layout.

Pro’s – Main Event
1st. Dennis Buelk/Tom Rimmer —————————- Coronado/Mainland
2nd. Allen Dronsfield/Ralph Lyon ————————- Leesburg
3rd. Rex Galusha/Stan Williamson ———- Coronado/Mainland/Quail Hollow
4th. John Giumarra/Felix Piscitelli ———-Coronado/Mainland/Deland

Pro Consolation
1st. Jan Dally/Edna Triplett ————————-Deland/Coronado/Mainland
2nd. Walt Bartels/Cheryl Cole ———————–Tavares
3rd. Howard Chambers/George Snyder ————Inverness/Clermont
4th. Tom Allen/Vern Ivey —————————- Clermont/Inverness

Amateur’s – Main Event
1st. Tom Carbonell/Mouse Wolven ——————- Coronado/Mainland
2nd. Tom Grubb/Zac Wonson ———————— Coronado/Mainland
3rd. Bonnie & Randy Radke ————————— Coronado/Mainland
4th. Allen Best/Rich Kordeleski ———————– Coronado/Mainland

Amateur Consolation
1st. Mark Engel/Paul Hodges ————————–Leesburg
2nd. Debbie Evans/Cindy Wonson ——————-Coronado/Mainland
3rd. Honey Donnelly/Rose Sargent ——————-Coronado/Mainland
4th. Chris & Joe Inga ———————————–Coronado/Mainland

There you have folks, have a great weekend, hope to see you all next week.
Reported by Al Dronsfield 12/8/18

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SHOPPING WITH NEIGHBOUR JOYCE, UNIT 2, 41 KING ST WEST IN BOBCAYGEON

My next-door neighbour, Joyce has limited vision, and of course cannot drive. I have told her many times that should she need a ride, I would be more than happy to accommodate her.   6 months passed, and NO CALL??

Surprise Surprise!!  To-day, 2018 12 03 in the early afternoon my phone rang. It was Joyce on the other end.  To my delight, she came right out and asked if I could take her to the Grocery Store.  She gave no reason; she did not have to. I asked her when she would like to leave; she said it was up to me. I said in one minute; she said how about 3??  We left in 3 minutes.

I pulled the car over by her front door. She entered and asked if it would be all right to go to the grocery store by Tim Hortons.  It is a little further than the grocery store she normally uses. I responded in the affirmative, and off we went.  We arrive two minutes later, and in we go.  In we go WITHOUT A CART. I return and bring one in for her and offer to be the pusher. Joyce has already begun her shopping.  Remember, she has limited vision. You and I have enough trouble reading labels. She cannot.  I quickly realized I had become her reader, and quite enjoyed same.  She did not have to ask for the location of items. It was quite apparent she had shopped here before, even though she could not possibly walk this far. She shared with me that she enjoys the change, and tries to get her once a month.  She sure seemed to enjoy the experience; we both laughed as we checked the many items, for “date”, and proper name?   The cart was filling up, but as I sensed she seemed to be still ‘looking’, I offered to “go around again”.  She declined, and we headed for the counter.

I had picked up one item.  This caused some confusion at the Check Out.  I jokingly said that “We Have Not Been Married That Long”, as the reason for the misunderstanding!!   I carried Joyce’s groceries into her house and told her HOW VERY MUCH I HAD ENJOYED THE EXPERIENCE.

Life is GOOD!! EVEN BETTER when you give someone a hand!!! 

Stan McCormack writing on 2019 12 03 10:43.

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The Zephyrhills Shuffleborad Club, CD, hosts CDA08B Dbls and CDP08B Dbls. 2018 12 08

CDA08B Dbls ZSC 12/8/2018
Sponsor: Lamplighter
Main (64)Players
1. Angie Meldrum – Ross Lacombe . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Zephyrhills
2. James Marquess – Gerald Tacey . . . . . . . .Lakeland/Forest Lake Est
3. Davis Bryans – Kathleen Lennox . . . . . .Forest Lake Est/Zephyrhills
4. Wil Vanderwielen – Dick Lightner . . . . .Forest Lake Est/Zephyrhills
Consolation
1. Barbara Hodil – Dan Davis . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Zephyrhills
2. Leida Gerrits – Erland Reynolds . . . . . . . . . .Zephyrhills/Betmar
3. Ginger Bauman – Fred Ritzman . . . . . . . . . . Lakeland/Zephyrhills
4. Bill Badgley – Henry Gerrits . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Zephyrhills
Tournament Director(s): Jeanette Harvey

CDP08B Dbls ZSC 12/7/2018
Sponsor: Lamplighter
Main (48)Players
1. Henry Strong * – Chuck Moulton . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Zephyrhills
2. Dean Myklejord – John Houghtaling . . . . . . . .Lakeland/Zephyrhills
3. Ed Dodson – Clar Brake . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Zephyrhills
4. Lee Hutchins – Donald Hiar . . . . . . . . . . . . Betmar/Zephyrhills
Consolation
1. Michael Seyfer – Ronald Ferry . . . . . . . . . . Zephyrhills/Winters
2. Katy Walker – Gabby Gabbard . . . . . . . . . . .Zephyrhills/Lakeland
3. Dave Sanborn – Glenna Earle * . . . . . . . . . .Lakeland/Zephyrhills
4. Judy Leger – Pauline Murphy . . . . . . . . . . . . . Betmar/Lakeland
Tournament Director(s): Jeanette Harvey

Sent along by State TD Glenn Monroe WITH THANKS.

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