Glen Peltier and Earl Ball Comment on the Evolution of the FSA Point System.

Glen Peltier Comments on the Evolution of the FSA Point System.

Glen P. face onlyI believe the FSA has done a fantastic job of keeping the point system fair.  When I first started to play, the singles points were double what they are now but there was no points given for consolation.  The main event was called until 2.30 and only then was consolation called.  You practiced on each colour and then lagged.  We then played one game of 100 points.

Consolation offered no points as it was considered a losers bracket.  Most people used it to practise and hardly ever came back the second day.  Then one point was given for first place in consolation. Eventually the present system came in about the same time split tournaments started.  All this happened, off setting the singles points getting cut in half.  I believe the present point system with consolation points given and split tournament may give the opportunity to get a few more points but not many.

Many shuffleboard organizations use the rules taken from the FSA for guidance.  I believe the FSA has done a great job in maintaining the integrity of our game.  Some of the ten day notices are very scary and threaten our game but we trust the executive of the FSA to maintain control so our game will prevail as is, or as close as we can keep it.  Many new players want changes but change their mind after they improve their game.  Again my friends; this is my opinion.

Glen Peltier.  2016 12 26.

Stan Speaks: As regular readers of the BLOG will know, both Earl and Glen contribute significantly to  The Shuffler.  Earl’s comments on the Point System are based on research; while Glen is sharing living observations.  I don’t know about YOU, but I like both approaches!!!   THANKS “GUYS” 2016 12 26.

Here is a “Revised Article” by Earl Ball.  Date of revision is May of 2015. 


B EARL REMARKSWhen the FSA took over in 1974/75 they established the point system like this.  State sponsored, Statewide and National Singles were 10-8-7-5 and State sponsored and National Doubles were 8-6-5-3 and statewide doubles were 5-4-3-2 and there were no points awarded in consolation.  Things stayed that way until 1991/92 when one point was awarded for first in Consolation.  In 1992/93 the system was changed to two points for first in Consolation and one point for 2nd and 3rd.  The system remained that way until 1998/99 when the consolation points in Singles were raised to 4-3-2-0.

In 2001/02 the system was changed to reduce points.  State sponsored singles were reduced to the same as State sponsored doubles at 8-6-5-3 and consolation became 2-1-1-0.  Statewide and National Singles became the same as statewide doubles at 5-4-3-2 and consolation at 2-1-1-0.

So when you hear Glen Peltier say players from earlier eras received more points you know he was right.  Glen started playing in the 80’s, so he was able to get in on some of the higher point seasons, at least higher than these days.  Glen also says a ton of points are given away in consolation; compared to the earlier years that is certainly true.

I’ll write a story about the all-time point leaders, but think about this.  Glen Peltier has won 93 tournaments in his career to score over 1300 points.  The player he over took at about 1250 points won 52. The other two players with a 1000 points won 69 and 11.  Further proof that Glen is right when he says; the point system had some funny wrinkles in the early years.  Jay Snoody, sixth all-time in points won the third most tournaments with 68.  I’m fifth in points with over 830 and have won more tournaments than anyone with 95.

Earl Ball:  Revised May 2015

Earl Wrote this, below, in 2010:


Earl Ball Speaks in 2010: “Last evening when I was researching the women’s all-time points leaders I ran across some interesting things.  As you read the attached article from the St Petersburg Independent that I found in one of my old Previews, I think it belonged to Bob Pearson, you’ll see the point system they used.  There were far more singles, eight in a season, and the points were twice as high.  There was an open division, under 65, and a closed division, 65 and over.  The closed division didn’t get as many points as the open division.  They also counted the National Tournaments played outside of Florida in the point systems.

I also stumbled over the fact that Jay Snoddy scored 86 points in the “72-73” season.  We never really looked up the men before to my knowledge and I don’t know if that’s the most or not.

Earl Ball.  2010 03 27.

More Related Material:  yesteryears-point-system-art-2-by-earl   what-was-the-point-system  shuffleboard-was-king-in-those-days-and-mae-hall-was-the-queen  point-systemThat is 3 articles for you; i.e 3 links.

NOW, click once on the file to your left; (pink at top, sort of yellow at the bottom) It is readable, easy in fact. Click once to open; pause, and then click a 2nd time;

Article put together by Stan McCormack.  2016 12 26.


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