Article 9 of Glen Peltier’s 2016 Series: Calling Discs. There is a “Right” and “Wrong” Way!!!

I have tried to be positive when comparing the old with the new.

Glen P. face onlyThere is one thing that I feel has gone downhill year after year. That one thing is disc calling.  Many years ago Willie Wolf had a 1973%20Willie%20Wolf[1]tournament director school every year. He told us over and over to look straight down the side of the disc and do not look over the disc until you have seen the green.  He said once you have seen the green, even if you came back and look straight down, you always remember seeing the green and call it good.

Today everyone seems to look over the disc. I think 90% of callers get it wrong. The third callers, all call it good.  They figure one called it good and one bad so they look over the disc and call it good.  Jim Allen seasoned discs and beveled the bottom a few years ago, so the disc would ride on the beads, and it worked.  But it did show more of the bottom when making a call.  Then when the new discs came out five years ago, the mold made the disc flat on the bottom with beveled edges. Thus making it easier to see under the disc.  Now it seems that everyone looks over the disc as the green is so easy to see.  Glenn Monroe is one of the few tournament directors who gets right down, but never looks over the disc.  I would like Glenn to comment on this issue as I see so many calls so totally wrong.  A game to seventy five can get two calls wrong and makes a difference whether you win or not.  No one comments on this issue. Years ago we had three callers who wore red vests making calls and they had to be certified block callers. We don’t have the volunteers anymore.  Maybe a diagram in the PREVIEW might work.

In baseball we have the pitch tracker that shows how many times the umpire is wrong but the call stands.  I believe we can teach people how to call blocks. I think the game of shuffleboard is important enough to us to write a paragraph in the Preview about block calling.

Wishing everyone a great 2017. Glen Peltier.  2016 12 28

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3 Responses to Article 9 of Glen Peltier’s 2016 Series: Calling Discs. There is a “Right” and “Wrong” Way!!!

  1. Glenn Monroe says:

    I appreciate Glen’s vote of confidence.

    First, let me mention the proper preparation of discs for tournament play. No new discs have a precisely vertical edge. Jim Allen tells us that the manufacturing process requires some small degree of angle to allow the disc to release from the mold. The newer discs are better than the first generation of Air Discs, but a small angle still exists. Most tournament clubs will, when seasoning a disc, bring that edge as close to vertical as possible. Failure to do so creates several problems, including a significant difficulty in judging the position of a disc.

    Glen is correct when he states that the bevelled bottom edge of the disc can cause a careless observor to look under the disc, which leads to a false judgement of the disc. However, the greatest single error that I see in people judging a disc involves parallax. Parallax is the apparent movement of an object due to the angle at which it is viewed. To us, that means that you cannot correctly judge the position of a disc until parallax is eliminated. We do that by insuring that we are looking straight down the verticle edge of the disc.

    There are two ways to approach that perfect viewing angle. You can, as Glen, suggests approach the edge of the disc from the rear until you have reached the edge or you can start by looking over the edge and slowing backing up until the edge of the disc just disappears from view. I personally prefer the second method because, with the first, I am always unsure that I have reached the vertical until after I have gone too far and have to back up anyway. Whichever method you use, the key is to look at the disc, not at the court, until you are satisfied that parallax has been eliminated, then follow that line of sight down to the court to make your call. Glen is right again – if you look at the court first, it is difficult to remove that first impression from your mind. Also, get your eye as close to the disc as you can and still keep it in focus. The farther you are from the disc, the greater the impact of parallax.

    If you are having difficulty with this concept, try holding a crisp dollar bill or credit card vertically on a flat, level surface. Now look at it and move your head until the sides disappear and you see only the edge of the object. That is parallax eliminated. Let’s all make good calls!


  2. stanistheman says:

    Thanks: First to Glen, and Second to Glenn!! To all Shufflers: If you would like to take a copy of Glenn’s Response, AND/OR Glen’s Article, simply copy the part you wish; paste it, and print it.
    Glenn is the FSA State Tournament Director; Glen is a “senior shuffler”; the only male Florida Shuffler who has accumulated in excess of 1,000 points.
    Stan McCormack.


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